Same-Sex Attraction Sufferer in Current Events

  • July 28, 2020, 12:13 a.m.
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I don’t know what compelled me to sit through an “inspiring” speech by a priest about those who “suffer” from same-sex attraction. I was thinking about my own identity as a gay man this morning and how this means that I am at the mercy of those with a dogma. Then it pops up on my YouTube so I decided to hear the man out. I agree that a persons attraction is not an identity. Everything else he said was a disconnect for me. Long story short he explains how same-attraction is not a sin, acting on it is. He explained how he is a priest who has opposite-sex attraction but lives in celibacy and serves his lord. That we are called to love, not sex. Love in friendships and relationships. I pretty much disconnect with religions when it comes to my consumption of politics but a lot of the people I subscribe to and defer some of my sensemaking to (the complexities of the world require a collective intelligence) are religious and believe that homosexuality is immoral. Dennis Prager believes that in a free society an individual should be allowed the choice to subject themselves to conversion therapy. I agree that a person should have a choice and they are allowed to vote according to their religious principals but I don’t stand behind homosexuality as something that is immoral. I have the freedom to believe that and to live in the way I choose and so do they. So far. We can coexist and I’ve had many friendships with people who believed that homosexuality is immoral and we still got along.

I don’t know why I care so much about what those book clubs think. My mother was pressured to have us raised to be good Christians. She refused to make those kinds of choices for us. She had us dedicated to my grandfathers church instead of baptized. We did Sunday school until we didn’t. I used to attend Church with my friend Devon and his family. I enjoyed it. I liked the bible stories but a lot my angst during my teen years was me wrestling with my homosexuality and God. I closed that chapter and turned my back on religion as I thought it had done that to me. I found my own way to god (as I understand). Religions, to me, are like treadmills. Great for exercise but I wouldn’t use a treadmill to go somewhere. It is intrinsic to human intelligence to make that spiritual journey on their own.

Spirituality is a huge part of the human experience, in my opinion. It is the world of the unseen, the unknown. Serving something higher than yourself whether it be god, higher consciousness or a higher self. We’re all looking for god whether that be in a church, in a drug, drink, purchase, hookup or relationship. That calling, that longing that never goes away. Love, according to linguistics in most languages translates to oneness. You don’t want to be separate from that which you love. One who is whole and holy does not want to be separate from themself. A lot of us do want to be separate from ourselves because we live in a culture that doesn’t love us. Spirituality is about creating that loving, nurturing culture for yourself. It’s just an eighteen-inch journey, connecting your head to your heart.

That eighteen-inch spiritual journey is still a long one. There are a lot of beliefs to unlearn. It has been the job of mystics across time and culture to teach you that beliefs are not real. Beliefs are just conclusions that we make about things that we do not know. Thus, atheism is just another belief. Science does not know one thing in its entirety. It only lets us know how to use everything on this planet. Anyway, this “mysticism” is supposed to be about faith, not beliefs. The original sin, in my opinion, was not the disobedience of God by Adam and Eve. The original sin was trying to acquire the knowledge of good and evil by consuming the fruit from the tree of wisdom. The job of Mystics and Gurus was always to get you out of those contrasts. Out of this matrix, the agreements we are all born into. Jesus as portrayed in the ancient gnostics was more of a guru. E=mc2 says that everything comes from one energy. That energy is what the Mystics called god. We are from that energy. The cosmos cannot create something separate from itself. We are the cosmos, conscious. Jesus, as the ancient Mystic in the gnostic teachings, brought people to enlightenment. It was rewritten in the cannon we have today to say the light instead of enlightenment. Enlightenment is just about going from unawareness to awareness. It’s not an awakening, it is a homecoming.

The Moses Code, I am that, I am. God is everything. He is not in us, we are in him. He can work through you if your heart and mind are not contaminated. I am that, I am according to this Moses code is just a manifestation tool. We can wield the power of source, god or higher consciousness. Controlled studies show how atoms respond to consciousness. The double-slit experiment for example. Some experiments even show that photons respond to our DNA. I probably sounded like a science hater earlier in this entry but that is not true. I’m a huge fan, huge. Biggly.

Anyway, this has been a very esoteric entry. Do I think same-sex attraction is immoral? Morality is a human construct. If you want good in the world then be good in the world. That’s my take. Find a way to live your life in a way that is not all about you if you want fulfillment. We’re all here having a temporary human experience, together. All of our basic needs are met and we have time to sit around and ponder about our existence. I am not my body, I am not my mind. Those are just accumulations of food that I ingest and impressions that I get from my five senses. What I accumulate can be mine but they can never be me. I have a gender, I am not a gender. I have an ethnicity, I am not an ethnicity. I have a sexuality, I am not a sexuality. We are not politics, religions and whatever else we use to identify ourselves with. It is a powerful thing to be able to participate in those identities without having to belong to them. I stopped reflecting back what society told me I was. I feel a need to turn around and help others on their own self-love, self-improvement, spiritual journeys. That would be my passion. That passion would be for me and that service would be for others. I think that is the recipe for fulfillment?

There is no moral to this entry this is just me wrestling with an unrealized, unprocessed feeling and attachment to a set of beliefs that I forgot I had.


KissOfLife! July 28, 2020

Having been raised as a huge religious kid (you have no idea - I was even a Christian camp leader one year when I became too old to be a camper - I even witnessed one chick have a demon exorcised from her, which was something else - oh Lordy - literally!) so when I came out, my parents (dad, especially) were sending me ALL sorts of religious jargon via the mail and people to see and ministers who had 'overcome' this 'immoral sin'. Definitely a lot of soul-searching on my end back in those days - everything my dad sent me went right in the trash. It was all negative on his end, but I was like, "Why the fuck would God himself create me like this if I wasn't meant to feel like this?" and that was a turning point for me. God still loved me, fuck what my dad thinks. But anyways, enough of my story.
I'm so glad you found your own way to God. Oh and I always look for God in a hookup. Multiple times if possible :P

TL KissOfLife! ⋅ August 02, 2020

lol! I laugh at your last sentence not at the story time. I did bible camp myself but I was never pressured the way you were to follow that book club

Catleesi July 28, 2020 (edited July 28, 2020)

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My favorite thought on this actually came from the movie Dogma. "I just think it's better to have an idea. You can change an idea; changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it." I don't know if God is real, I'd love for there to be something more than what there is but I can't say that without proof.

The idea of the Bible and people being Gay.. I think that God was more of a influence on the writings but people put their own fears and thoughts in there as well. So people at that time were not pro-rights for anyone other then themselves, leading to a lot of hate for the LGBT+ community and misogyny against women. I honestly belief if there is a God, he would make people as they are meant to be with diversity and on a spectrum. I mean, the rest of the animals in the world are diverse, why are people supposed to be pigeon-holed into something society accepts? Sorry, for the long spiel- It irks me that people use so much hate instead of compassion and love for those different then they are but use the excuse of Religion.

TL Catleesi ⋅ August 02, 2020

I haven't seen dogma in forever. That's a good quote.

Walking Crow July 28, 2020

So much to respond to but I just woke up o.o Going to have to parse this later. Meanwhile.... Gnostics!!!! Squeeeee!!!🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳🌳 Have a good day!!!

TL Walking Crow ⋅ August 02, 2020

lol!

Walking Crow TL ⋅ August 02, 2020

!! Yggdrasil, If my skull wasn't attached to my neck bone I'd of lost it and ended up off a cliff by now. Thank you for poking me and letting me know I existed at this point and time and had entirely forgotten about it. =-= Had a weird mental week and it escaped me entirely. -hug-

TL Walking Crow ⋅ August 03, 2020

I need to make my way around and catch up on people's entries. I hope you're well

Walking Crow August 02, 2020

I love men like this because I have a collection of bibles and one of them has every possible mention of homosexuality in it highlighted and tons of post-it notes with additional information on it. I love to approach people preaching this and ask them why they think it's a sin, and wherein the bible it says that. Then surprise them with a. "Oh, so I have that one highlighted right here let's take a look together" XD Go through it and leave them looking O.o faced... then being like. "Oh, but there are like a couple of other mentions, and a few possible mentions should we go through those as well just to be safe?" It's so weird to me how so many people have adopted this just accept this idea without any real understanding... It's strange.

Your mother sounds like an awesome woman, waiting to let her children make those kinds of choices promotes I think a closer bond to god, and your children and yourself. Ahhh the pursuit of your own Awen :) lol You are over here sounding like a druid! lol, Fun fact during his missing years in which Jesus becomes essentially the "Jesus" we all know many have speculated he was learning Buddhism and there are some interesting things written on how it went through that and came to become the figurehead for Gnostics.

That sounds like an amazing Awen (passion) to have, I hope it leads you to fulfillment, you seem to be well on your way, and I for one am glad to have met you on your journey. You are thought-provoking and seem to be a great person to learn with and from.

TL Walking Crow ⋅ August 03, 2020

I feel so flattered! I'm not good at taking compliments. Yogananda, a famous Yogi that came to America, admired Jesus and hung his portrait of him on his altar with his other ancient Gurus.

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