Better to die with honor than to live with shame. in anticlimatic

  • Feb. 24, 2022, 8:43 p.m.
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I keep trying to imagine what it would be like to suddenly arm up with rifles and head downtown to defend the neighborhood from invading killers armed with their killing machines. I wonder if I would fight honorably or hide in fear if it came to it. I suppose it would depend what exactly was at stake. Everything? I suppose I would more likely fight than not.

What’s to lose in acting if everything is lost to not acting? One’s life I suppose, but what exactly is one’s life? I find it strange that we are both objects- our bodes are physical and tangible meat machines- but also supposedly more than objects- “personalities,” or “souls” if you’re religious or “spiritual” enough to operate with such descriptive language. The idea that a person is more than just an object, and worth more respect than other objects because of the inherit value and superiority of this special- completely intangible, completely unmeasurable- “Human Person Unique Magic Soul Being Entity Thing.”

And this we believe more in, than what we actually physically objectively are- objects and fevered animals.


Last updated February 24, 2022


Miss Chiffs Manager February 25, 2022

Personality can be, and is, measured :)

anticlimatic Miss Chiffs Manager ⋅ February 25, 2022

How much does it weigh?

Miss Chiffs Manager anticlimatic ⋅ February 26, 2022

I'm not sure that numbers weigh anything, nor that the word weigh exists, but it is an action.
Personality is a description of actions. Actions are measurable, and measuring is itself an action.
I suppose you could consider that material is separate from it's function. But that assumption would be irrational.

anticlimatic Miss Chiffs Manager ⋅ February 26, 2022

Prove it. Measure your own spirit/personality, in whatever objective units you can find, and share your data.

Miss Chiffs Manager anticlimatic ⋅ February 27, 2022

What would you consider sufficient evidence?
Plenty of reproducible personality studies. The big 5 personality traits come to mind, as well as IQ, EQ, empathy, etc, all being substantiated.

anticlimatic Miss Chiffs Manager ⋅ February 27, 2022

I enjoy those tests very much, but do you really think any and all of them combined come anywhere close to measuring the spirit of a person?

Miss Chiffs Manager anticlimatic ⋅ February 28, 2022

Oh, no, of course not. I don't think any of them can tell us much about ourselves as an individual, either. The studies are designed to measure populations, and have very little (if any, that I'm aware of) application in judging individuals.
That does not negate the fact that personalities exist and have effects, though.
I think the spirit of a person (soul, virtue, reason) can only be measured in it's entirety by a sufficiently deep and broad mirror. Ie, another soul.

anticlimatic Miss Chiffs Manager ⋅ February 28, 2022

I heard that a stranger can have a better idea of what’s wrong with us after ten minutes of conversation than we could ever realize over a lifetime of self reflection. Agree? I’m not convinced personal biases are able to be overcome at all, even with help. Beside the point, but related.

To the point, I disagree. I think third party help can assist in many degrees of psychological problem solving, but could never wholly account an individuals psychological distinctions. It’s just too overly complex.

So maybe it’s not complex at all? Maybe it’s dead simple- a single dream, or illusion of being- relative and amorphous by design.

Miss Chiffs Manager anticlimatic ⋅ February 28, 2022

uhm. Yes- in principle, it is possible to know entirely what someone is about in less than 10 minutes of meeting them. I just think that most people not only don't care, but they don't want to know. It is actively avoided.
As for the other stuff.... I don't know what you're saying.

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