Expense in Book Six: Trying to Hold On 2019

  • Sept. 12, 2019, 8:05 a.m.
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As I look through dating sites, it seems that a lot of them only allow communication between paid members. This is unfortunate for many reasons but perhaps the most unfortunate: that means (it seems) it is very expensive to be single. For example, the two Highest Recommended apps for my area are Zoosk and Match. All communication there is “Subscriber Only”. A subscription isn’t cheap. Obviously, it ranges per length of commitment but the price can be anywhere from $30 a month up to around $100 for a 6 month subscription on some of these sites. I know there is a push for Tinder, and as much as it could be argued that I do really need a good solid shag, I’m not there yet. I’m in that… torn limbo, I suppose. On one hand, I have the last 8 years and this growing certainty that nothing is ever going to change. That if I don’t depart, I’ll find myself in the same ridiculous cycle all over again. A cycle where I clearly state my needs for the thousand-thousandth time, see those needs not being met, see Wife making a 5% effort towards “maybe, possibly, potentially, at some point in the future somewhat being able to consider trying to meet those needs,” give her “credit for trying”, and then continue endlessly in a relationship where at best I get 5% of what I need. But of course on the other hand, I have this damned foolish optimism and stubborn streak that make me think “We’re in counseling and I love her. Certainly she’ll grow and learn and choose to help create a healthy relationship.”

So that’s where I am. Which is why I’m considering any of this to begin with. We discuss Domestic Violence and how to escape those relationships. And people ask how I finally chose to leave the abusive relationship I was in. And honestly what pushed me over the edge there? When I realized that Aku would destroy herself or destroy me. It was when I realized that no matter what optimism, hope, or resources were present… Aku would not be content until one of us was utterly destroyed… in spirit, mind, body, heart, or any combination therein. That’s when I said, “NO. And I’m never coming back.” Because a relationship cannot be about destruction. It is the Gestalt Principle. If the relationship is not at least trying to be “better than the sum of its parts”… that isn’t a good relationship. And for the relationship to be about destroying the sum of its parts?? That’s downright inexcusable.

Thus enter my current predicament. My relationship, I can say with some confidence, is not greater than the sum of its parts. Oh, in some ways we “fill in for each other.” Wife does banking, I earn the money… Wife and I both take care of the house and dog (her more house, me more dog)… but that’s about it. We substitute for one another. But I don’t think we can honestly say, “I’m better for having her in my life” and I dare say she can’t say, “I’m better for having him in my life.” True, we could both in a way state “I’m better for having known them.” But not in an active, “My life is made better by her presence” kind of perspective. So that’s where we are and why I feel so… how I do. Like a gambler, I suppose. It feels like playing roulette and betting 00 every time. There’s a 37 to 1 chance of it landing there; but you keep making the bet… certain that it will eventually pay off. But the less it pays off… and the more you see people putting money on “Black”… you start doubting your bet. And if you play that game every night at the casino, always betting 00… and every night, you lose… for years… you really want to at least investigate putting it all on black.

And I guess that’s where I am. After more than 8 years of betting on 00 at 37 to 1 odds… I know that putting it all on black has a 1 and 1/9 to 1 odds. I’d like to investigate that. But (and here’s where The Metaphor becomes Reality) the costs associated certainly give me pause. Do I really want to spend money on a dating app just to see if I have a chance at something healthier? Or is that a step too far? What’s more (that adds to my apprehension) is The Bot Factor. I realize far too well that Dating Sites employ bots in their scheme. Some auto-generated profile that says “I’m interested and want to talk” so that the desperate or needy will rush to pay for a subscription to “chat with someone interested” only to discover that one message sent was something like “This is an example message, like the kind you can certainly expect from more singles soon!”

So… yeah. That’s where I am today. Marriage Counseling on Saturday and honestly wrestling with “Do I want to pay for a dating site” today.


SomethingClever September 12, 2019

I would say that one of the reasons people seem to prefer the paid sites more is actually to combat the bots- when you have to actually pay to contact others, its less likely to be a bot profile because the scammer will have to pay for that profile. On free sites the likelihood of bots contacting you is much more common I guess? That said, a few years ago it seemed like Match.com had spent zero dollars updating their website. Plenty Of Fish was good for me.

Sorry about the things going on in your marriage- I've been there before. I would say that dating at the same time you're going to marriage counseling could be tough if you're not transparent about what you're doing. I had a happy ending with a different person, and I would say that in my experience, people don't inherently change. I would also say that when you truly love someone and know each other as well as you must after such a long time together, the choices you make are conscious ones, and so are hers. Good luck!

woman in the moon September 12, 2019

I ran across on youtube an episode of Rhoda where she and her husband went to a marriage counsellor. Turned out he didn't want to be married. She had forced him into it.

woman in the moon September 12, 2019

I'm trying to imagine myself and my husband at a marriage counsellor. We never thought of it. Didn't know how to find one. He wouldn't have gone. Etc. Etc. I do wonder what would have happened though..

AppleGirl September 12, 2019

Just my two cents: before you go delving into the world of dating, romantic communications, subscriptions to various dating services, and/or one night stands, end your marriage... like legally, physically, emotionally, moving her out of the house, etc. As a lawyer you should know that things could get sticky if you already have a side piece or evidence of pursuing one when/if she decides to push for spousal support during divorce proceedings (which she would do if she had a brain - you have been supporting her basically and she is used to a certain standard of living with you).

Amaryllis AppleGirl ⋅ September 12, 2019

thissssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Purple Dawn September 12, 2019

What AppleGirl said :)
It will just be a bigger mess if you start something on a dating site, jmo
Take care,

Deleted user September 12, 2019

When you do get to the point you’re ready to do online dating, I would not recommend paying for either one of those. Especially match. I paid $160 for a six-month subscription. Unfortunately it does not tell you if the person you’re messaging has also paid. So chances are you’re going to be sending out messages that never get read. Just because you’re on tinder doesn’t mean you have to have sex. I would say tinder has more people on it, and it can allow you to just get your feet wet. Start talking to someone, maybe go on a coffee or lunch date. Ease into it. Bumble is also a good choice!

Perpetually Plump September 12, 2019

Don't do this to someone else. Don't get on a dating site and put yourself out there as available when you are not. You are married. How would wife feel about that? How dedicated are you, really, to this counseling process if you're half out the door with a dating profile? And how unfair is it to EVERYONE if you condition your leaving or staying on the availability of other women. Trust me, no emotionally healthy woman is going to want to be with you when you're married and living with your wife. And if you did happen to find a healthy woman to date by lying to her about your marital status, you will be entirely unsuitable for dating her, as you'll be married and trying to disentangle yourself from that.

Amaryllis September 12, 2019

I think I paid like $700 something for eharmony.

-d September 12, 2019

So fun fact. I met my wife on Zoosk. It hit subscribe, it asked me to pay. I said hell no, and backed out,then it offered a subscription far cheaper.

I met my wife within 2 days...got her number, cancelled my subscription and got my money back.

Foofah September 13, 2019

I personally wouldn't invest in a dating app unless I was seriously using it for it's purpose. It seems like wasted money otherwise.

Foofah September 13, 2019

Also, I know Match used to do a big test and then would show you your most compatible matches and then see if you're wanting to subscribe. Maybe that is something you can do.

Funny note, before my Husband met me he did the test and it said he had one compatible match in our area (at that time we were living in a town of about 1600) and it was his ex wife, lol.

Rhapsody in Purple September 14, 2019

Checking dating websites while also getting marriage counselling sends very confusing messages.

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