Lifting lockdown in The Manifesto

  • May 9, 2020, 10:21 a.m.
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This has to come at some point, but how do we do it safely? It seems the two massive risk factors are: school and mass gatherings.

Now, I don’t particularly think school itself is the risk… the simple fact that when you close schools about a third of your workforce cannot work, therefore don’t commute, is basically what has the effect. The schools not being used as care hubs haven’t been used for 6+ weeks, so they don’t need deep cleaning.

I do think social distancing is impossible within schools. Even if you use all the available rooms and extra teachers there isn’t enough space to enforce social distancing. The best you can hope for is that:
- on way in everyone washes hands and has temperatures checked (no contact thermometer outside)
- Staggered start times for kids through different doors, avoiding everyone moving rooms or walking along same corridors where possible
- reminding everyone to clean hands and desks periodically
- assemblies and school lunch banned, kids eat packed lunch at their own desk.

Now personally if kids or teachers have been in school during lockdown, I’d make them do two weeks proper isolation before being allowed back into school - but obviously that’s not a popular choice. I.e. no work, no one in their family leaving the house etc. It isn’t going to be possible for everyone to do but for the vast majority it is, and it’s unfair they remain locked down just because a small percentage might be affected.

There will still be kids who are vulnerable or live with shielded people so they will continue online school, taught by teachers who are also shielding.

Australia and various other places have said gatherings of 5, then 10, then 20 people will be allowed. Mass gatherings I think will be out till they figure out how to treat or vaccinate. But there is potentially a huge boom in private dining rooms and exclusive concerts as long as you can get contact details for everyone who attends.

People should keep a diary of exposure, which I think would be far more effective than the ridiculous apps they are trying. If you leave the house you fill in a form, which you have to carry with you about where you are going. Then if you get it, they look at your book of forms and can contact everyone - because if you want to open, you’ll need to have contact details of the people who book.

We aren’t going to reach zero, I think this is as good as we are going to get. Because there are people who need to move about or have just simply ignored it all.


TheMoor May 09, 2020

I think my mum said that her French cousin had to print out a form every time she went out otherwise you could be fined. While it is low tech, maybe it will be more robust than trying to get everyone to install an app to track contact.

roseystar May 10, 2020

Here in oz we have the option of online or in person. The vast majority of kids are there in person. Normally we walk pre primary and kindy kids to the class and stay for first 15 mins. Now we drop them off at staggered allocated times at different gates. They are met by teacher at the gate and walked to the class. The system sort of protects the teachers but results in a glut of parents/kids outside the gates so wouldn't work for a population with high level of infections like the UK. Assembly is now done online and lunch breaks are staggered and lunch areas separated. Áines teachers husband is high risk so she has stayed at home. School in her class feels a bit pointless from an educational point of view as they're just revising term 1 stuff for the millionth time, but like you say it enables so many people to go to work, so it's important from that point of view. I think it's inevitable that a lot of kids are going to get left behind with this dual system. It's far from perfect, but it's better than nothing.

Camdengirl roseystar ⋅ May 10, 2020

This to me sounds sensible - lilsis in Oz has been able to get coffee and do outdoor exercise with her personal trainer practically the whole time, bar their initial 14 day quarantine.

London was always going to be hit hard because of the density of population and the sheer numbers of people travelling thru it, but it’s bonkers we still have flights coming in unchecked.

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